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Altima4ever @user_17589 · 24-05-2005
ماشاء الله اخوي معلومات مهمه ومفيده حقا

مشكور اخوي وماقصرت

ومنكم نستفيد

السلام عليكم
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LSs1Power @user_4018 · 24-05-2005
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Altima4ever
ماشاء الله اخوي lSs الظاهر انا نكلم كنز من المعرفه |1|

انا صراحة اجمع معلومات من هنا وهناك ومن هذ الشخص اوذاك دون التأكد منها

اشكرك علي التصحيح والمعلومات المفيده :)

and also i have something to say correct is if there any wrong|1|

still not the same horsepower class. The drag Mustang has more power then the drag Skyline has and in otherwise the Skyline is AWD and the Mustang is higher horsepower RWD. Simply the Skyline is more close to the street level (becouse the HKS Skyline has MUCH smaller tires) while the Mustang is more of an hardcore Outlaw class near to 2000 horspower (with HUGE much bigger rear tires almost half the size of the car). As I said before American V8 muscle concieve speed as quarter mile while Japanese and Europen sports car belives more in track numbers, top speed and as overall around performance. Skyline GTR is an high performance track and all around road car in all condition, still Skyline GTR is the world fastest AWD car. Mustang or F-body American muscle cars is built for different purpose then the Skyline GTR.

question to you my bro

if there is race track between best Mustang or the best F-body cars and skyline who do u think will win

we want take some info from your experience |1|

bey bey


Again as I said before it’s really hard to compare them because they are not running the same class, but I can tell you why I picked outlaw class to match that skyline. In outlaw class cars are around 3000lbs and they have to run 10.5 inch tire which is impressive. I have 11 inch tires on my street car and a viper has 13inch tire in stock form. Now a skyline doesn’t need 10.5 inch tires because they use AWD to launch and while AWD is great on the streets it has its limitations in a all out drag car (I will explain later). The supra in the same skyline class is allowed to run 10.5 inch because it’s a rear wheel drive. Also it doesn’t make sense for the skyline to run a wide tire because it will not benefit from it, but in fact it will slow it down due to heavier rotational mass.

An AWD car needs simple slicks to grip hard with no problems, but it still can’t match the same 60ft of a RWD car which hurt it in the 1/4mile. That is why you don’t see top fuel cars running AWD. The reasons are drive train loss from the front wheel system and weigh transfer when launching. I’m talking about 60fts here because it’s the most important aspect in a 1/4mile race. Each .1 in 60ft reduction will equal .15-.3 sec reduction in ET overall time. That’s why you will hardly find an AWD drag car hitting 1.3 or 1.4 60ft while you can see a lot of RWD cars doing that in Strip/Street cars. These are the reasons why a RWD is better in a drag race.

Now to discuss American cars VS skyline/Evo in a road course track. First before I start talking about this I should tell you that I used to be a instructor here in the states and I drove all kinds of cars from Japanese to American, but I never had the chance to try a skyline around a road course here in the states. I can tell you this from experience any car can handle with the right tweaks and driver, but here we are talking about STOCK cars right? The answer to your question will be really simple: It will depend on the road course layout. Let me explain better… If you have a road course with .8 mile straight way then the car with more power will make a lot of lost time there and will basically eliminate the advantage the skyline/EVO have in turns. If you have a lot of tight turns then EVO will beat both the skyline and Camaro because they simply can’t use their power advantage to pass or keep the EVO behind them. I have an F-body and I road race it more than drag race it. A good driver will know the strength and weakness of his car and try to use it as much as he can. In competition driving better handling cars will find it really hard to pass if you follow a tight line around turns.
So which car is better around a road course? …. My answer it depends on the track layout.
Which car is better in AutoX?....... I can say Evo over Camaro any day.

As you can see there are no definite answers for comparisons like this because it really depends on the racing conditions. I would rather have some cars to drive it certain conditions over others. Each car has strengths and weaknesses. I hope this answers your question.


Sorry for the long write up

:)
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Honda- Civic @user_18418 صاحب الموضوع · 24-05-2005
Honda- Civic
please check if those numbers are for 1/4 or 1/8


ممكن توضح اكثر ؟
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Altima4ever @user_17589 · 24-05-2005
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LSs1Power
Who told u a TOP FUEL dragster made anywhere close to 1500HP? A TOP FUEL dragster will make 1500HP if its running on 2 cylinders and one of them is almost shot lol. Just for your information a TOPFUEL dragster make 7000-7500HP and it needs around 900HP just to turn the blower ALONE. It is no where close to the OUTLAW class. The OUTLAW class is the nearest one to that skyline and that is why i listed it. Anyways as i said before you dont want to start comparing Japan drag numbers with the American cars. And believe me i know about all kind of cars since i mod them too
If you think i only mod american cars then you got the wrong idea about me.
If you need any information about Skylines or any other car just feel free to ask :)
Have a good day man . .


ماشاء الله اخوي lSs الظاهر انا نكلم كنز من المعرفه |1|

انا صراحة اجمع معلومات من هنا وهناك ومن هذ الشخص اوذاك دون التأكد منها

اشكرك علي التصحيح والمعلومات المفيده :)

and also i have something to say correct is if there any wrong|1|

still not the same horsepower class. The drag Mustang has more power then the drag Skyline has and in otherwise the Skyline is AWD and the Mustang is higher horsepower RWD. Simply the Skyline is more close to the street level (becouse the HKS Skyline has MUCH smaller tires) while the Mustang is more of an hardcore Outlaw class near to 2000 horspower (with HUGE much bigger rear tires almost half the size of the car). As I said before American V8 muscle concieve speed as quarter mile while Japanese and Europen sports car belives more in track numbers, top speed and as overall around performance. Skyline GTR is an high performance track and all around road car in all condition, still Skyline GTR is the world fastest AWD car. Mustang or F-body American muscle cars is built for different purpose then the Skyline GTR.

question to you my bro

if there is race track between best Mustang or the best F-body cars and skyline who do u think will win

we want take some info from your experience |1|

bey bey
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LSs1Power @user_4018 · 24-05-2005
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الفني
Who told u a TOP FUEL dragster made anywhere close to 1500HP? A TOP FUEL dragster will make 1500HP if its running on 2 cylinders and one of them is almost shot lol.

ههاااااااااااااي ........... أضحك الله سنك يافهر ..

بعدين لحظة وحدة ياعم .. أخدت السوق علينا ..
أصلا لو فالح أنت كنت أرسلت لي كراسي المحرك للنيسان صح ... مو تبع سني .. هههههههههههههههههههههه آآآآآخ بطني ..:D

أنا عندي توب فيولر 4 سلندر إنما أيه .. يمكن قريبة من 9000 حصان ... هااااااا تسابق بالكومارو تبعك ؟


وحشتنا ياشيخ تعال جدة بسرررررررررعة ..


LOOOOL.... My camaro is slow man u know that lol
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Initial D @user_10972 · 24-05-2005
|5| الصراحه أنا زهقت من هالموضوع لاني بديت امله ؟؟؟
على العموم الناس اذواق وماتقدر تحكم على كل شيء بكيفك ...

|1| بالنسبه لي الياباني افضل لاسباب انا اشوفها تتفوق على الامريكي (( كالقوه المعتدله والثبات العالي والسعر المرضي وقلت المشاكل ))
وانتوا تشوفون الامريكي افضل لاسباب انتوا تشوفونها
واصابع اليد مش سواء
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الفني @user_742 · 24-05-2005
Who told u a TOP FUEL dragster made anywhere close to 1500HP? A TOP FUEL dragster will make 1500HP if its running on 2 cylinders and one of them is almost shot lol.

ههاااااااااااااي ........... أضحك الله سنك يافهر ..

بعدين لحظة وحدة ياعم .. أخدت السوق علينا ..
أصلا لو فالح أنت كنت أرسلت لي كراسي المحرك للنيسان صح ... مو تبع سني .. هههههههههههههههههههههه آآآآآخ بطني ..:D

أنا عندي توب فيولر 4 سلندر إنما أيه .. يمكن قريبة من 9000 حصان ... هااااااا تسابق بالكومارو تبعك ؟


وحشتنا ياشيخ تعال جدة بسرررررررررعة ..
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بو العابد @user_15343 · 23-05-2005
oh man not another amreican Vs japans fightv


LSs1Power I respect you .you r talking from experience and that's what we need to hear and take note from unlike other will



One word "American muscle are the king of straight" and no way to compete with them

Honda- Civic
please check if those numbers are for 1/4 or 1/8

enjoy
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LSs1Power @user_4018 · 23-05-2005
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Altima4ever
we have something to say
LSs1Power my pro
about that mustang

Well first of all they are in 2 different horsepower class. The Mustang in the link you added is close to Top Fuel which is considered anything over 1500 horsepower. The HKS Skyline R33 GTR the horsepower output is not even close to the Mustang. Another consideration the Mustang is pure V8 muscle rear wheel drive super drag which the HKS R33 GTR is an AWD normal dragster under 1500 horspower considered as street level class. Alltho the HKS R33 GTR is the world fastest AWD drag car. I think. Any American muscle is built to be fast and concieve speed as quarter mile while Japanese or Europen cars has more interests for track numbers, top speed and overall performance vehicle

we want learn from each other pro
buy buy


Who told u a TOP FUEL dragster made anywhere close to 1500HP? A TOP FUEL dragster will make 1500HP if its running on 2 cylinders and one of them is almost shot lol. Just for your information a TOPFUEL dragster make 7000-7500HP and it needs around 900HP just to turn the blower ALONE. It is no where close to the OUTLAW class. The OUTLAW class is the nearest one to that skyline and that is why i listed it. Anyways as i said before you dont want to start comparing Japan drag numbers with the American cars. And believe me i know about all kind of cars since i mod them too
If you think i only mod american cars then you got the wrong idea about me.
If you need any information about Skylines or any other car just feel free to ask :)
Have a good day man . .
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bashar_255 @user_12025 · 23-05-2005
Initial D : الموستنج الـ 5.0 مديل 87 الى 92 محركه يجيب 225 حصان

سنة 93 غيرو البساتن و صارت تجيب 215 حصان و السيارة أقوى من المديل اللي قبلها بفرق بسيط
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Altima4ever @user_17589 · 23-05-2005
we have something to say
LSs1Power my pro
about that mustang

Well first of all they are in 2 different horsepower class. The Mustang in the link you added is close to Top Fuel which is considered anything over 1500 horsepower. The HKS Skyline R33 GTR the horsepower output is not even close to the Mustang. Another consideration the Mustang is pure V8 muscle rear wheel drive super drag which the HKS R33 GTR is an AWD normal dragster under 1500 horspower considered as street level class. Alltho the HKS R33 GTR is the world fastest AWD drag car. I think. Any American muscle is built to be fast and concieve speed as quarter mile while Japanese or Europen cars has more interests for track numbers, top speed and overall performance vehicle

we want learn from each other pro
buy buy
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LSs1Power @user_4018 · 23-05-2005
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الفني
LS1 أنت تتحدث على المستنغ ولا على اللي جمب المستنغ .. أظن التاني أقوى ... :D
أستغفر الله ... ما لقيت أفضل من هذا اللنك ...هههههههههههههههه



Sorry about that, but i couldnt find a better link than that one lol. I should have put NOT WORK SAFE lol.
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LSs1Power @user_4018 · 23-05-2005
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Honda- Civic
LSs1Power : شكرا اخوي علي النقاش اللي كان معك بمره وحلاوته استفدت كثيرا منه وعذرا علي اي زله مني ازعجتك والاختلاف في الرأي لايفسد في الود قضيه وشكرا علي المعلومات الجديده الموستنج & الكمارو |1| وعذرا مرة اخرى علي اي ازعاج اخوك هوندا سفك






Its ok to have difference in opinions. I was just trying to point out that the comparison doesn't work that way. Anyways 7a9al 5air oo inshallah kulana brothers here. Now kul wa7id y9ali7 his car lool.
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Honda- Civic @user_18418 صاحب الموضوع · 23-05-2005
LSs1Power : شكرا اخوي علي النقاش اللي كان معك بمره وحلاوته استفدت كثيرا منه وعذرا علي اي زله مني ازعجتك والاختلاف في الرأي لايفسد في الود قضيه وشكرا علي المعلومات الجديده الموستنج & الكمارو |1| وعذرا مرة اخرى علي اي ازعاج اخوك هوندا سفك

mortally : انت عطيني موقع مافيه اي معلومات عن ارقام اقدر ارجع لها بعدين احول الرقم لك للميل حتي تعرف تقارنها بعدين

181 ميل قطعت في 7.6 ثانيه

جيب لي اي سياره قربت من هذا الرقم |6|

انت تقول عادي جدا يعني ماطلبت انا شي صعب

في انتضارك
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mortally @user_10232 · 23-05-2005
حبيبي قلبي cvic الرقم الي انت حاطه عن السيارة الي في توقيعك عادي جدا الرقم هذا تم كسره من عدة سيارات امريكية (فقط وليس ياباني) في حلبة البحرين حبيبي الرقم هذا قديم جدا والرقم عادي جدا
اذا شباب خليجيين كسرو الرقم الله يستر من الي جاي منهم ......................... تراهم يعجبونك في تهزييييييئ الموتر الي حاط صورته
ادخل هذا الموقع وشوف الانجازات www.q8hp.com
ويكون في علمك هذا بالكويت اجل وشلون في السعودية والامارات وحبايبنا في دول الخليج |3| |3|
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الفني @user_742 · 23-05-2005
LS1 أنت تتحدث على المستنغ ولا على اللي جمب المستنغ .. أظن التاني أقوى ... :D
أستغفر الله ... ما لقيت أفضل من هذا اللنك ...هههههههههههههههه

إليكم جميعا :

هدوا اللعب .. وهدوا الحديث .. كلنا إخوان.


في رعاية
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LSs1Power @user_4018 · 23-05-2005
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Honda- Civic
LOOoool

iam not that foolish to do this|6|

plz a little concentrate

before my replay


thats whats iam was talking about in that replay :)




musting ?? give any proof |6|


What do better means? I asked you before and you didnt answer? If it does mean better VE if u know what to that means aslan then i already said that. Whats your point aslan min al argument now? People like you never seize to amuse me
Please stop wasting my time and others with just text that has no value. I dont like to get into a ranting competition. I said what i had and thats it.

Here is your proof



Meet the world's quickest 10.5 Outlaw Mustang. It's driven by Tim Lynch and tuned by Steve Petty. Best elapsed time to date is a 7.16 at 195 mph.
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And to make it even sweeter here is a camaro outlaw running 7.40 at 192mph which equals 308km. There are faster class than outlaw if you want to take a look at, but i picked outlaw because you can compare it to the car u have in your sig. ]

Here is the proof for the camaro
http://www.gmhightechperformance.com/features/0411htp_charged/


And just as this story went to print, he came one step closer, running 7.40 at 192.


Im done here
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Honda- Civic @user_18418 صاحب الموضوع · 23-05-2005


U guys are funny... Ahh min zmaan 3laa KSA lol. First you listed a bunch of numbers and said that Japan cars make more power per L. Now you are saying you are not talking about power, but talking about who is better.lool What does better mean to u? Answer that Mr. scientfic facts lol.




LOOoool

iam not that foolish to do this|6|

plz a little concentrate

before my replay

Comparing HP/L and saying higher is better is totally wrong.


thats whats iam was talking about in that replay :)



And please dont go talking about 1/4mile because we all know who has the fastest cars in the world in a straight line


musting ?? give any proof |6|
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LSs1Power @user_4018 · 23-05-2005
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Honda- Civic
heey rusher :cool:

think then write

i was talking about who is the better not who is more power

by the way

see my signature there a 6 syl car i think its from japan anyway i heard USa cars can't even think to challenge it's record

scary is'nt ??|13|


U guys are funny... Ahh min zmaan 3laa KSA lol. First you listed a bunch of numbers and said that Japan cars make more power per L. Now you are saying you are not talking about power, but talking about who is better.lool What does better mean to u? Answer that Mr. scientfic facts lol.
And please dont go talking about 1/4mile because we all know who has the fastest cars in the world in a straight line. One simple example is an outlaw mustang running 7.16 at 195mph which is around 312km... Now which one is more scary lo.. u guys crack me up.. Ahh nothing like a good laugh in the afternoon...As i said before this can go on and on and next time you think before you write and get your facts straight.
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Honda- Civic @user_18418 صاحب الموضوع · 23-05-2005
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LSs1Power
What ta9neeef 3alamee are you talking about ? |471| Ya 7beeb if there was a competition between manufacturers about who can make the most power out of a 2 or 3 L engine then i would say compare them, but you cant just pick any engine and make your assumptions. I can go pick a camry engine and compare it to a SRT 4 engine since both are 2.4L I4 then say because of that comparison the american cars have a stronger L loooooooool|
As i said before and i showed that im not biased toward any kind of cars because i like them all YOU CANT COMPARE THEM LIKE THIS.


heey rusher :cool:

think then write

i was talking about who is the better not who is more power

by the way

see my signature there a 6 syl car i think its from japan anyway i heard USa cars can't even think to challenge it's record

scary is'nt ??|13|